The Unfocused Cyber Vomit of Nalita

I’m going to answer this bit by bit:

“Do you think I’m fucking with you? I am not fucking with you. I’m here from downtown.

Had to get that out. Now then, well, most of that went quite well so I’ll just jump to the end if everyone can agree on that.”

…Glengarry Glen Ross? :P

to be fair, I don’t think you’re fucking with me, and I’m seriously not being sarcastic. In fact, I was actually quite enjoying the calming down of the discussion from the last post. Seriously.

“I like that you covered both your bases, and no I’m not female, but I understand women plenty. I know you are going to say otherwise, but oh well.”

Well ok. But the fact that you seemed to dismiss my own objectifications, as a woman, as needing to “calm the fuck down”, suggested otherwise. I’m not going to bore you on the subject of male privilege blah blah blah, because I’m sure you’ve heard all that before.

“People will do all sorts of crummy things to other people. Male/Male, Female/Female, and everything in between. I don’t see the need for this particular outrage.”

That, again, is true, but to pretend that there isn’t a particular crumminess against women, is again, male privilege and blah blah blah etc. Plus, this particular chart does seem to be geared towards/against women who put men in the “Friend Zone”, as it’s charmingly called.

“That someone would try to call me up and convince me to make payments I don’t actually owe is pretty shit, but I’m not gonna get a hernia over it. That some people have to work 60-80 hours a week to lose their jobs, that some countries have such terrible inequality that I could probably come to your house and stone you for talking back if we both lived there, etc.”

Citing one inequality does not give you the right to dismiss the other. Money issues =/= misogyny by any means, it’s like comparing apples to barbed wire.

“Protesting against some (admittedly not-quite-so-very) humorous chart on the internet isn’t a part of the action plan, IMO.”

What action plan? To try and tackle the little things ingrained in society (like this) that trivialise sexism? You don’t just tackle one issue at a time, if THAT was the case perhaps women still wouldn’t be allowed to speak out of turn, or work, or marry other women, or vote, etc etc.

“I’d wish you good luck but you wouldn’t know what to do with it if you got it.”

Um, that really depends on what you’re wishing me luck with to be fair. Life? Sex? Love? Money? Career? I have good luck in one or more of these aspects, I really don’t see what luck has to do with a sexist chart?

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Ooh, spanking.

Last night, whilst staying with my folks, I was changing into my pyjamas, when my mum (who’s used to seeing me naked so whatever) came into the room, saw my butt cheeks and remarked:

“You need to look after your skin, hen. Put some cream on those rashes on your bum, ‘cause your bum is getting quite bad.”

…I didn’t have the heart to correct her.

Uh-huh.  I see what you’re saying, but I’m saying that this term is not just used by this specific group of people, but by society at large, and that’s a problem.  While I agree that a lot of those who like to think of themselves as ‘Nice Guys’ use this term, I’m also wary of pigeon-holing those into it who perhaps simply hadn’t considered the rammifications of the ‘Friend Zone’ term. 

Secondly, being a feminist/sympathetic to the feminist cause doesn’t necessarily mean having a full understanding of all feminist issues.  Even the most well-read feminist is capable of errors in judgement and lack of understanding about an issue.  As you rightly pointed out, it can be difficult to understand a woman’s perspective on the issue if you’ve never been objectified in this way.  Male privilege is still a major problem that affects judgement on this sort of issue, even in the case of the most considerate male feminists, but as long as people are willing to learn, then we’re making steps forward.

Maybe, but then being “nice” or silent (as I was going to be) isn’t necessarily going to make them think about it either. Whilst I may be emotive or “over-reacting” to things like this, it’s important sometimes in my opinion to express just how strong a response it can evoke in people - including me. Otherwise some people just won’t take the objection seriously.

But yes, I do agree that education is key in fighting male privilege. Again, as long as people are willing to learn, and not dismiss objections out of hand (e.g. “calm the fuck down” is not a valid response to any “I’m pissed off that this sort of chart exists” post), then yep, I am absolutely willing to back down. 

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No one likes to be manipulated, no, but coffee’s for closers.

The only two on this chart that should have any ‘real’ merit are the wine(booze) and maybe the engagement thing.

As to the engagement thing. No dude can engineer that situation (not without a movie-like plot), so I am going to side-step it for now. I trust that will be okay; if not let me know.

As to the boozing. If you are the type of girl for which booze leads to sexy time, you probably know it. It might only be deep down, but in some small way, you are aware.

I, for instance, become extremely obnoxious when drunk. I am already quite obnoxious, more than enough, so I will say avoid drinking around people I don’t want to offend.

I think if you’re in the place that a pillow fight or neck massage are going to seal the deal, after some red wine or your friend gets engaged, that guy wasn’t as firmly in the ‘friend zone’ as you thought.

The fact that this chart caused any sort of uproar at all is laughable.

I do like the “coffee’s for closers” line.

But yes, my real exception was the using booze and/or situations that make a girl vulnerable to further “sexy time”, as that chart suggests.

And as you acknowledge that those concerns have “real merit”, as you put it, then you understand why people get upset over those two, right?

I mean the other two are just cheesy, but they’re just that: cheesy.

“As to the boozing. If you are the type of girl for which booze leads to sexy time, you probably know it. It might only be deep down, but in some small way, you are aware.”

If I am the type of girl for which booze leads to sexy time, I will be responsible for plying myself with said booze. The fact that anyone would rely on plying anyone ELSE with booze to get what they want? Now that’s disgusting.

“I think if you’re in the place that a pillow fight or neck massage are going to seal the deal, after some red wine or your friend gets engaged, that guy wasn’t as firmly in the ‘friend zone’ as you thought.”

In that case, the rather assholish term of “Friend Zone” does not, and should not, apply. Simple as.

The fact that you find the uproar laughable may suggest either:

a) you don’t understand women like you thought you did, or

b) in the case of you being female, you’ve been silenced into thinking that being exploited is pretty much ok and/or a trivial, jokey thing.

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criticalfeministcorgi:

(head of a corgi on alternating pink and blue backgrounds, text above reads “what do you call a woman that has a lot of sex?“ bottom text reads “her name“)

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It doesn’t stop there folks!

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AAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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madamedemanic:

angelickfaktor:

belatucadros:

Oh calm the fuck down already.

Jesus christ.

Get a god-damned clue. No one likes being manipulated.

Following my original comments, I wanted to expand on this.  I think it’s important that we see this as a societal issue, and not turn it into an attack on particular groups of people.  Yes, it is true that the term ‘Friend Zone’ has a lot of negative associations, as I already said, but this term is used by society at large, and not just men.  I’m sure a lot of the people using this term haven’t actually thought about its associations or effect on perception of women, and the key here is education, not name-calling.

You’re right. I guessed the person telling me to “calm down” was the original person who made or submitted the chart. And my own response to the “friend zone” chart mentioned male followees who had reblogged this - I should clarify, this wasn’t an attack on men, it was a genuine observation that the ones who reblogged the chart without comment were males who, aside from this chart, have either identified as feminists or who are sympathetic to feminists. Which just confused the hell out of me as to why they were reblogging this.

And the “Friend Zone” definition is not used by all men, but by a very specific group of “Nice Guys”(TM) that I had already mentioned in my response.

However, I do think that some people (replier to my post included) don’t understand exactly how base this line of thought can feel to women, whether intended or not. 

So yes. My own response was not intended as an attack, but more to try and explain why the chart was… very squicky.

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isetfire:

did-you-kno:

During pregnancy the vagina is distended, allowing substantial quantities of air to be introduced. The air enters the bloodstream via the vein sinuses of the intrauterine wall and from there finds its way to the heart and the brain. Collapse is usually immediate, and death can occur within minutes.

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why would you blow into a vagina in the first place? 

Yeah XD my first thought was “woah, are some folk THAT heavy breathers?” but apparently people like that sort of thing? O_o

I thought that was just an urban myth at first, but it’s a warning on kidshealth.org:

http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_center/your_pregnancy/sex_pregnancy.html#

and on everyone’s favourite “Basics” site, ___ For Dummies:

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/is-oral-sex-or-anal-sex-okay-during-pregnancy.navId-323516.html

And even WebMD(!) says the same thing:

http://www.webmd.com/baby/features/sex-during-pregnancy-is-it-safe

Apparently, however, you need to blow really hard, or use an air compressor, after forming an air-tight seal around the vaginal entrance, for problems to occur:

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/761367-overview#a0104

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1859.html

Welp. That has got to be the strangest thing I’ve researched for my own curiosity. XD